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In this special episode, host Kris Krane speaks with retired DEA Agent Bob Stutman, who recently wrote in Forbes of his new-found support for marijuana descheduling. Kris and Bob last spoke back in 2006 in a series of debates held in Florida while Kris was working as Executive Director of Students for Sensible Drug Policy, and catch up to talk about Bob’s pivot into a more progressive stance on medical cannabis. Produced by Shea Gunther.